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First off all thanks for releasing an ITX board right from the start of the new AMD processors. I'm sure a lot of kinks still have to be worked out. I'm currently in the process of getting a stable overclock on my RAM modules and I have encountered a problem with the voltage settings, especially DRAM Voltage. I might for example put in 1,45 V, Windows will boot, but a lot of sensor software like HWINFO will report 1.5 V being applied. Furthermore if I consequently reduce voltage to 1.40V it will still be around 1.476 V.
Also when I do a cold boot (turnining the System completly off and back on) the BIOS will reset on settings that ran through several stress Tests successfully. I think that problem is connected.
No love on the Beta Bios Front for the only ITX board on the market?
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Talking About boot voltage, not just the normal DRAM Voltage. I'm having stable fast OC Setting on a warm boot, but whenever I cold boot with those Settings, the BIOS will reset. I figured this is happening because the BIOS is applying lower voltage on boot.
I figured there is no more RGB Fusion Control inside the BIOS. I guess I have to download yet another Windows Software for the RGB Control.
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Well I have solved my Cold boot Problems. Do not turn ErP on. That was the culprit.
Nonetheless I have run into other Bugs/Problems with the Board:
I see no S0/S1/S2 Sleep state support
The fan Header is causing clicking noises on my Noctua fans
Concerning the Sleep States I have found no Information whatsoever if those are actually supported by Ryzen Desktop processors. At least their mobile parts should support it. I have no Option to either activate or deactivate them in the BIOS. The issue number 2 is probably some bug with the PWM Header. It was also reporting wrong RPMs for the fan. I have since connected the fan to my Aquacomputer fan Header and my PC is no quiet.
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i'm observing similar issues..
i'm using the newest bios: F4j
major issue: my vdimm offset is about +0.024 to +0.036, i.e. setting the voltage fixed to 1,440v would result in 1,464-1,476v reading in bios...(under load it may be even higher offset..) where does that offset come from??
missing-options-issue: where are the settings for m.2 slot modes? cant find them in bios!
there is realy no rgb setting inside the bios - compared to asus aura on my last board (which was quite bad in terms of lighntning controls), the rgb fusion is even far worse! linking board-led and dimm-led effects? not possible...
confusing-and-annoying-issue: advanced mode..well...ALOT options can be found in various menus, but those are not syncronized, which REALY confusing!
examples... memory timings: 1. tweaker -> advanced memmory settings -> memory subtimings -> XYZ // here you can find primary, secondary, tertiary timing settings, procodt, geardown, cad settings.. 2. settings -> amd overclocking -> DDR and infinity fabric frequency/timings -> DDR freqency and timings -> XYZ //here you can find four submenus, containing the same options as above, but theyre not synced to what you changed in the above path...
voltage settings like VDDP/VDDT can be found in the tweaker AND in the amd overclocking submenu AND in the AMD CBS -> XFR enhancement submenu... three times the same options, but again not synced!
precision boost overdrive? the same.
"wake on lan" option? exists in thhe settings -> platform power submenu AND in settings -> IO Ports -> intel i211 menu -> NIC configuration..
no-description-issue: what ist the "xmp high frequency support" option doing? can't find any explanations on the effect this setting has...but it's located in the top level of the tweaker section!
what's the difference between the cpu loadline calibration options - what's the difference between "normal" and "standard" setting? what about others from same menu?
the same question applys to the tweaker -> CPU & VRM section -> pwm phase control. 6 options, BUT whats i.e. the difference between "Mid PWR" and "Balanced"?
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update on dimm voltage issue.
i did some testing. currently i'm running the F4j bios and my ram kit is this one: F4-3600c17d-32gtzr (don't get fooled, it is on the qvl list, but there it is listed in a 4x 16GB kit - which makes no sense on a 2-dimm-slot itx board btw. i asume it's just copy&paste memory qvl for all aorus x570 boards...) on the qvl it's listed as f4-3600c17q-64gtz kit. omly difference is rgb lightning, the "r" at the end..but the sticks are still the same samsung b-die based trident z modules...
anyways - the xmp profile for this kit is speced @1,35v. when the system is running at idle, the bios and hwinfo64 show vdimm floating around 1,374-1,386v. under memory load this goes up to 1,404-1416v resulting in very high dimm temps, regardles of good airflow (actually the case is open and fans are blowing onto the dimm sticks...)
please notice the vdimm setting in ryzen master "Speicher-VDDIO" (german langauge setting in ryzen master, cant change it..) also see the maximum dimm temperature in hwinfo screen..
since all the voltages and temps were way to high on xmp/auto, i went into bios and set 1,32v vdimm. when the system booted, bios readout and hwinfo showed 1,356-1,368v vdimm on idle. under load vdim went up to 1,380v.
so, just from observing this, i'd say: gigabyte, you have a serious vdimm voltage offset issue with the x570 i aorus pro itx board!!
I had R&D look into this - actually any software reading of a voltage (even bios) can be off from the actual voltage at the cpu. It's an approximation. So we did 3 tests. What does bios say, what do the voltage points on the x570 master say, and what can we read from the cpu socket.
Set ram to 1.35 (xmp or manual, same result) Save, exit, reboot. Bios said 1.38 Voltage points said 1.37 Cpu socket said 1.364
So there does seem to be a 9mV "overshoot" in this test but to be frank that's really not a big issue. I get that we all want to set x and see x, dead on, no variance, just rock steady exactly what we put... But that's not really how voltage works. The number we put in bios actually goes through a large equation that also affects other voltages. It's all interdependent.
You would see the same thing with vcore. Software, voltage readout points, and testing the cpu socket will all be slightly different and rarely exactly what you typed in bios.
This is also a function of our philosophy when it comes to bios, temperatures, etc. We show you the value without any trickery. The same way we put vrm temperature proves smack in the middle. We could offset the probe a few mm and lower the temp, but what's the point? To what end? The idea behind readouts is to give you the most accurate information so you can tweak, optimize, or just check how the system is running. We are doing the same with voltage. We could set an offset to "show" 1.35v, even if the cpu is getting 1.364, but we don't. We are looking into ways to display a closer approximation of the voltage, ie 1.364 just like the cpu socket, but we won't do this through a magic hidden offset.
If you are dead set on getting as close to exact as you set you could try going 0.01 lower than you want, but even that is an approximation and will vary based on board, Psu, and cpu. The only true way to dial in an exact value would be to probe the cpu socket and test various settings until you hit the exact voltage you want.
Tl;Dr it should be fine. If you want to see a lower voltage then lower the input (~10-15mV) and see if its stable.
P. S. Ryzen master appears to just be reading the register (ie setting) from bios. Not what the voltage sensor says. The sensor is doing its job, but impedance affects reading vs reality.
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hi matt!
thx for replying on the issue.
i'm perfectly fine with +-0,01v; even +-0,02v are okaysh and acceptable as readout offset.
but when i have 1,350v set as fixed dimm-voltage and then under load i can observe 1,404v ...well thats actually +0,054v. now, i could accept that as "it's-just-fine-and-within-spec" thingy, but when i see the temps readout, i'm a bit worried.
why? because i used this very ram kit on a asrock itx i7-8700k build a year ago in the same case and same case fans, and my dimm temperatures were about 8-10°C lower! on that intel system the temps never were higher than 52-53°C - here i'm hiting 62-63°C!
thats why i provided two screenshots: first showing hwinfo readings after 15min of HCI memtest at fixed 1,35v, second screen showing the same information with same HCI test @1,32v. the delta in max dimm temperatures is 12-12,5°C!! just by lowering the fixed voltage by -0,03v??
btw the used kit is a g.skill f4-3600c17d-32gtzr (2x 16GB samsung b-die) - the primary timings and trfc are slightly lowered that the xmp profile, all other timings/settings are on "auto".
also the setting with 1,32v is perfectly stable, while when vdimm is on "auto" i see even 1,416v and after 25-30min of ram testing and dimm temps around 65°C, the test starts showing errors...
ps: i'm gigabyte customer since the ga-7zx "socket a" via kt133 chipset board about 20 years ago; owned abot 14-15 different boards since then and only 3 of them were non-gigabyte - BUT i can't remember such vdimm "offsets" on any previous gigabyte board!
I'm facing same identical issue on aorus pro x570 itx. (F31l bios; g skill trident z neo 32GB 3600mhz 16-19-19-19-39)
It seems to be not possible to reach a compromise between a stable dimm's voltage and acceptable temperature; if I set 1.42v from bios I'll reach 1.5v effective that brings my ram to get errors just using xmp 3600mhz profile.
It's unacceptable from gigabyte, I bought a ram kit specifically designed for ryzen CPU and now I neither can't put xmp profile!
Please gigabyte, find a solution after 1 year and half from the motherboard launch
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