Your problem is that's a question aimed at AMD, their AGESA implementation and the limitations of the IMC. The boards are largely similar on this one I think.
Personally I would leave it if you're able to hit 3000 ish at CL16 as gains will be minimal beyond that
Ok, and how come I am able to run my Corsair vengeance lpx at 3200mhz easily on my MSI gaming pro carbon by just enabling their A-Xmp feature and stable, however on my Gigabyte Gaming K5, nothing I do either manually or auto can. A lot of people are in the same boat here. It has to be a vendor specific tweak no?
+1, I am able to run my Corsair vengeance lpx 3200 @ its rated speed of 3200 on a MSI AM4 motherboard, but still only able to do 2933 stable on my gigabyte ab350-g3. Please sort it out in next wave of BIOS updates gigabyte!
I know it's been asked, hammered on, questioned to death and more.......
Is there going to be a future BIOS release that allows for the use of RAM at speeds of 3200MHz and higher, that have a C15 or C16 (or more) and double sided, on any of the future X370 (and B350) boards?
If you could please let me (and others) know, so we can either offload the RAM we have now and get C14 single sided RAM and be done.
Thanks!
My last discussion with AMD left me with the impression that while you *maybe* able to get it to work, they are not putting many (any?) resources into pushing 3200+ memory. As others have stated this is really a function of AGESA code, not specific vendor BIOS tweaks. We can make changes and get a specific kit to work, but as a platform we need updated AGESA code to make it viable on most kits. Your best bet now and for the foreseeable future is still single sided Samsung B >=3200.
Your problem is that's a question aimed at AMD, their AGESA implementation and the limitations of the IMC. The boards are largely similar on this one I think.
Personally I would leave it if you're able to hit 3000 ish at CL16 as gains will be minimal beyond that
Ok, and how come I am able to run my Corsair vengeance lpx at 3200mhz easily on my MSI gaming pro carbon by just enabling their A-Xmp feature and stable, however on my Gigabyte Gaming K5, nothing I do either manually or auto can. A lot of people are in the same boat here. It has to be a vendor specific tweak no?
Correct. Vendors can make tweaks for specific kits. It is something we do, but as a platform is not viable. There is simply no way to test, tweak, and get every kit working.
Let me explain what our guys explained to me when I posed the question: "Why can't we just take the manufacturers timings, pop them in, and validate all the kits?"
The answer I got is JEDEC spec. JEDEC spec only goes up to 2667 with specific timings. These timings have a very clear validation process. JEDEC spec works 99.9% of the time, and the .01% is usually due to a faulty component not the settings. The moment we step out of that spec we are more or less on our own.
Kits come with 4 timings, a speed, and a voltage. Behind that are dozens and dozens of subtimings. The same trial/error process you guys go through to get a kit to work is the exact same for our teams. Its time consuming, not guaranteed to work, and can change based on CPU, memory batch, etc, even if they are all the same model!
Long story short, as a platform, the only way to get most memory above 2933 (which seems to be the current "it works" speed for most kits) is through AGESA code.
Take a look back. We started with 2933 being unheard of. We tweaked, we released a ton of BIOS, and got some kits to work. Only with new AGESA code did 2933 become "mainstream". The process going forward is going to be the same. We can tweak, we can get some kits to work, but to see a paradigm shift in 3200 "working" will require new AGESA code with that aim in mind.
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The latest AGESA code allowed for up to 4GHz DDR4 to be selected and set, so I think the push is for 3200+ MHz ram is already there on AMD's side. And the fact that vengeance LPX 3200 seems to be running on literally all other vendor's motherboards at its rated 3200, seems to point towards it being a vendor-specific issue, at least with this particular kit. The last AGESA code was already heavily focused on getting hynix-based DRAM working at its intended speeds. Also, I think you mean 0.1% there, not 0.01% , & yes we understand it's time-consuming and tedious to work through every individual kit and verifying them for every board, but the demand for this from the consumers of these new boards is evidently there; so maybe gigabyte need to step up their game on this front; as other vendors seem to be dedicating a lot of time and effort towards ameliorating the DRAM & other stability/compatibility issues on this new platform.
The last AGESA code allowed for up to 4GHz DDR4 to be selected and set, so I think the push is for 3200+ MHz ram is already there on AMD's side. And the fact that vengeance LPX 3200 seems to be running on literally all other vendor's motherboards at its rated 3200, seems to point towards it being a vendor-specific issue, at least with this particular kit. The last AGESA code was already heavily focused on getting hynix-based DRAM working at its intended speeds.
I've asked the BIOS/validation teams to take another look at corsair LPX 3200 and see if we can fix it on the next BIOS.
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GIGABYTE - Matt I'm having problems with some usb devices not detected by the bios, is only the bios that gives my troubles once windows is loaded they work. Any chance of this being fixed with the next bios release?? I have a ab350 Gaming ver 1.
GIGABYTE - Matt I'm having problems with some usb devices not detected by the bios, is only the bios that gives my troubles once windows is loaded they work. Any chance of this being fixed with the next bios release?? I have a ab350 Gaming ver 1.
The last AGESA code allowed for up to 4GHz DDR4 to be selected and set, so I think the push is for 3200+ MHz ram is already there on AMD's side. And the fact that vengeance LPX 3200 seems to be running on literally all other vendor's motherboards at its rated 3200, seems to point towards it being a vendor-specific issue, at least with this particular kit. The last AGESA code was already heavily focused on getting hynix-based DRAM working at its intended speeds.
I've asked the BIOS/validation teams to take another look at corsair LPX 3200 and see if we can fix it on the next BIOS.
Thank you very much. I had about 5 posts asking about this, or at least some insight as to what timings would get this working. The thing that got me was that the LPX memory I had was on the QVL list for 3200, but I could never get it to run there, although you said if it was on the QVL, it should run at those timings. CMK32GX4M2B3200C16W
I've asked the BIOS/validation teams to take another look at corsair LPX 3200 and see if we can fix it on the next BIOS.
Thank you very much. I had about 5 posts asking about this, or at least some insight as to what timings would get this working. The thing that got me was that the LPX memory I had was on the QVL list for 3200, but I could never get it to run there, although you said if it was on the QVL, it should run at those timings. CMK32GX4M2B3200C16W
I asked them to test / verify that kit. Let you know what they say!
If you are having an issue with your soundblaster card being detected I believe we have a fix. Unfortunately it looks like it isn't a simple BIOS issue. Please submit a ticket to technical support. They will be able to assist you with an RMA (if needed).
Hi Matt, can you be more specific on this issue? How can we verify if your boards are affected? If my onboard sound dies after the warranty will GIGABYTE take care of me if no other external sound card work with my K7? Now I'm a bit scared thinking it is a hardware bug...
The issue isn't any sound card, its specifically the Sound Blaster. Haven't heard of people having issues with any others. The problem/solution was identified by US, AMI, and Soundblaster working together.
Hi Matt, can you be more specific on this issue? How can we verify if your boards are affected? If my onboard sound dies after the warranty will GIGABYTE take care of me if no other external sound card work with my K7? Now I'm a bit scared thinking it is a hardware bug...
The issue isn't any sound card, its specifically the Sound Blaster. Haven't heard of people having issues with any others. The problem/solution was identified by US, AMI, and Soundblaster working together.
For the record, I've had a soundblaster ZXR from day one and it hasn't given me any trouble in my K7. If I remember the from the deleted thread, wasn't it the Z model mostly? Or were there other issues?
Hi Matt, can you be more specific on this issue? How can we verify if your boards are affected? If my onboard sound dies after the warranty will GIGABYTE take care of me if no other external sound card work with my K7? Now I'm a bit scared thinking it is a hardware bug...
The issue isn't any sound card, its specifically the Sound Blaster. Haven't heard of people having issues with any others. The problem/solution was identified by US, AMI, and Soundblaster working together.
Thanks Matt. For a second I was saddened with the possibility of a hardware fault. Except the sporadic 'soft brick', my board have no problems with both lan adapters and no audio interference on the front (or back) panel. No random startup, no black screen, no blue screens or problem with crossfire. Memory are running under the specs (Samsung e-die). All USB ports are ok even on BIOS. By the way, the BIOS is spartan but it is very good to navigate with the keyboard. I miss a beefier sink on the CPU VRM but the FETS are solid and the temps under my gaming sessions are fine.
Your problem is that's a question aimed at AMD, their AGESA implementation and the limitations of the IMC. The boards are largely similar on this one I think.
Personally I would leave it if you're able to hit 3000 ish at CL16 as gains will be minimal beyond that
Ok, and how come I am able to run my Corsair vengeance lpx at 3200mhz easily on my MSI gaming pro carbon by just enabling their A-Xmp feature and stable, however on my Gigabyte Gaming K5, nothing I do either manually or auto can. A lot of people are in the same boat here. It has to be a vendor specific tweak no?
Yes it is a board/bios issue. They need to fix it, i dont care if the gains are minimal as the other guy claims it is still a gain/$.
rgarrison wrote: Sept 14, 2021 22:20:10 GMT -8 When you go to BIOS, does it show any media connected at all? Try and plug USB drives in, SD cards, whatever you can, and see if the BIOS can recognize any device. If it can, then try and get a bootable image on that device.
kshipper wrote: Sept 14, 2021 17:38:33 GMT -8 You could make a bootable USB key with Windows on it..just Google Windows Media Creator
scooterdooder wrote: Sept 13, 2021 15:33:37 GMT -8 Be tried to start the pc up with another hdd and it won’t boot either goes straight to bios but I am able to see it, tells me no bootable device
kshipper wrote: Sept 13, 2021 8:18:19 GMT -8 Sounds like a failed HDD....
scooterdooder wrote: Sept 12, 2021 17:51:46 GMT -8 hwving trouble getting into Windows I have a z97-hd3, I’m getting no bootable device detected. Reset the cmos battery on mobo, checked all SATA ports and tested another hdd still no boot
scooterdooder wrote: Sept 12, 2021 17:50:25 GMT -8 Hey having issues booting into windows I have z97-hd3 mobo. I’m getting no bootable device tetected
bamainark wrote: Sept 11, 2021 8:18:04 GMT -8 @starfighter......what motherboard/cpu are you using? If it's a later model TPM support will probably be built in. A TPM module itself is a separate option you must purchase yourself. Most motherboards also has a TPM header for this TPM module.
starfighterj wrote: Sept 10, 2021 7:28:36 GMT -8 What is Gigabyte going to do about windows 11 TPM 2.0 Support where is this Module and does it even work? GC-TPM2.0
kshipper wrote: Sept 9, 2021 21:13:34 GMT -8 gearjamer: Does holding down the shift button and clicking restart still bring you to the Troubleshoot menu like it did in Win10? When I used UEFI I could dig through the options there and boot directly into BIOS from there*
gearjamer wrote: Sept 9, 2021 12:30:14 GMT -8 hello can someone help me i just updated to windows 11 i have the z390 motherboard and after i turned off csm and turn on secure boot and turned on ptt i was able to install windows 11 but i cant get back in the biso anymore no matter what buttons
bamainark wrote: Sept 8, 2021 7:24:46 GMT -8 ehs83....best place to look is at TechPowerUP. They have quite the collection of VGA Bioses.
ehs83 wrote: Sept 7, 2021 9:12:50 GMT -8 Hello guys I need a default bios for 2080 super gaming OC Rev 2.0 . Can someone help me please ?
shakilurahmed wrote: Sept 5, 2021 8:19:18 GMT -8 Hi everyone! I have a Gigabyte GA-H110M-S2PH with 2 DDR4 sticks. first one is 2133 MHz and another one is 2400 MHz. when I insert 2 RAM together. My PC doesn't run when I insert. I tried so many ways but there is no solution I found. As I got to know, I
s2h wrote: Sept 5, 2021 8:01:29 GMT -8 MBIST crashes the notherboard on Picasso APU !
kshipper wrote: Sept 4, 2021 23:15:05 GMT -8 phoenix ...the underscore type slash is the detection phase of the board.
phoenix wrote: Sept 4, 2021 14:38:54 GMT -8 Anyone know why brand new Gigabyte boot comes up with a _ before the BIOS screen please. It is B560 Aurous Pro Ax. Thank you.
greggg wrote: Sept 3, 2021 8:29:56 GMT -8 About X470s 5 pin wrgb header. I can just snip off the 'w' pin or use 5 Pin Splitter Cable 1 To 2/3/4 Female Connector Extend For 5050 LED RGBW RGBWW combined with 4 pin male adapter.
kshipper wrote: Aug 29, 2021 22:43:00 GMT -8 Glad you got it sorted out danb62 =)
danb62 wrote: Aug 29, 2021 13:35:16 GMT -8 Case solved, thanks kshipper. So bad this issue is so poorly documented. That Q-flash button works like a charm.
, & yes we understand it's time-consuming and tedious to work through every individual kit and verifying them for every board, but the demand for this from the consumers of these new boards is evidently there; so maybe gigabyte need to step up their game on this front; as other vendors seem to be dedicating a lot of time and effort towards ameliorating the DRAM & other stability/compatibility issues on this new platform.
